“I am not Indian; I am Kashmiri”
A graffiti on a wall in JNU by Democratic Students Union.
In the summer of 2008, I got a phone call from my cousin who lives in Delhi. He told me about my selection in Jawaharlal Nehru University. After two weeks of dilemma, I finally decided to join the university in a language course. It took me a while to come to terms with my decision as my first choice was not Language but Engineering. I believe half of Kashmiri youth opt for Engineering after senior secondary school. Every relative who got to know about my selection suggested me to grab this golden opportunity. Finally I landed up in JNU in the July of 2008. It was a mixed feeling. On one side it seemed that I have escaped from the prison of chained thoughts and limited opportunities, from a place where a student has less career options, where Medicine or Engineering is student’s first career choice, where a student with an arts subject is looked down upon, where a youth without government job is considered to be unemployed. So I was happy to join the university in Delhi.
Despite being happy, I was sad too, for I missed my family. I missed my homeland. I missed the smell of fresh air that the cool breezes of my homeland always brought along. I missed the early morning dew drops on the lush green grass that sparkle with the early sun rays. I missed the changing of colors with the changing seasons in Kashmir. The spring was on its way to Kashmir. Leaves and flower buds were sprouting all around. Green carpets of grass were expanding in every direction. Whole Kashmir was turning green, leaving behind the dark and harsh winter season.
In Delhi, nature seems to lose variety. One can hardly differentiate among seasons. Every season seems to be the same; leaves don’t change color, even the sky seems colorless, and stars seem to refuse to twinkle and shine bright. Chirping of birds is replaced by horns of motors and landing of planes. Pollution is all around. Delhi had many other things to offer though. It gave me freedom to study any subject with same respect as medicine or engineering could have and a choice to choose a subject from a variety of options.
Delhi offers specializations and honors courses; these are the things that a common Kashmiri doesn’t get in Kashmir. International Book fairs and education fairs take place all round the year. One comes to know about a lot of new and interesting courses and scholarships available around the world. Every day one finds workshops and conferences of all kinds happening in different parts of the city. Delhi is a pool of opportunities and inspiring stories. But all this comes at a cost of cool summer and pleasant weather.
Delhi’s weather remains hot and humid for most of the year. Scorching heat and hot blowing air (loo) is what I hate most about the city. Delhi’s culture and society is also quite different. Fast moving lives, lesser family ties and late night working shifts are part of being a Delhite. People don’t take Noon Chai and Lavaass in the morning. They eat bread and butter with sugar-tea, the breakfast. They don’t know what Noon Chai is. How much I miss it! I even miss. Nadir monji and Halwi parath, Harrsi and Kashmiri Wazwaan.
Delhi claims Kashmir as integral part of India. But I feel like a foreigner in India. I am not Indian; I am Kashmiri. Even they treat us as foreigners. And I as a Kashmiri accept being treated as a foreigner. I remember the semi-finals of the last Cricket World cup when India beat Pakistan. The students in my hostel came with drums outside my room so as to cherish their victory, they shouted, hooted and threw beer glasses as if we were from Pakistan. I remember when they pasted Indian flag on my door on Indian Independence day. This shows they themselves believe that Kashmiris are not Indians but try forcefully to convert us to. I remember auto-rickshaw men calling us Iraqi and Afghani.
May be our complexion matches more with Central Asian than Indians. But being Kashmiri in Delhi has also certain disadvantages. People always look with suspicions towards you. I remember when I was looking for a hotel just before the Republic Day eve. I was not provided any accommodation even though the rooms were vacant. There are many landlords who don’t rent their apartments once they identify anyone as being a Kashmiri. But I don’t blame common Delhites. Delhi police now and then arrest Kashmiris in many false cases. Whenever anything wrong happens in this metro city only Kashmiris are the first suspects. I remember when media channels flashed the news that Lashkar-e-Toiba could be behind the Mumbai blasts of 2008, I had to confine myself to my room. My parents were worried and I believe every Kashmiri’s parents start worrying once something awful happens in India. And why not! It’s a genuine concern of parents.
There are so many Kashmiris languishing in many Indian jails because of mere suspicion in many cases. It seems laws like POTA, PSA, AFSPA has been specially framed for Kashmiris. Protests happen in every corner of India. I nowhere see protesters being fired upon. I don’t see death toll crossing hundreds. I don’t see culprits roaming free. It only happens in Kashmir. I too protested for human rights violations. But luckily I was not hit by a bullet, maybe because I don’t live in Kashmir. Maybe, because living in Delhi assures that I accept Indian hegemony or because media covers stories in Delhi. Still my parents call me every day because they fear that I might be booked by police in some false case or maybe I may have been
forcibly disappeared.
Overall, I have been lucky. Being in JNU gives you a little security. Even though I protested, I was not booked. Moreover, we conducted movie screening, public talks and conferences over Kashmir Issue in JNU. And surely people supported us. Student political parties supported us. They raised slogans against Human rights violations in Kashmir with us. And maybe this attitude of Student unions in Delhi has made
government of India to ban student bodies in Kashmir. They fear educated class of society. I pray for the day when a youth from Kashmir doesn’t have to come to Delhi and adjust to its fast moving life in order to gain education. Hope education system within Kashmir grows strong enough that students like me need not to leave their homeland.
S M Zaffar studies at Jawahar Lal Nehru university, Delhi.
Photo: Muhabit-ul-Haq
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March 7, 2012 - 15:54
Been to Kashmir twice, have friends living there. Love the place and it’s people, can understand Zaffar’s problems and what it must be like to leave the paradise and live in a place as harsh as Delhi.
I only wish the army leaves the place and let the locals handle the law & order problem. The army has a vested interest in staying, and often creates situations to stay. No where else the army enjoys the privileges it gets in Kashmir.
June 7, 2012 - 21:25
we love our army.
jai hind
jai hind ke sena
July 1, 2012 - 10:11
Hi I grow up as child in Kashmir, (1963-1995)I was never accepted by J&K state neither as a boy (in school the kids and even teachers used to call as INDIAN, You may be of any standard, but topper will be from Kashmir) and nor as Youth ( you have to search job out side the state)
Unluckily, The population of Kashmir pay a quarter of the price (rice, Atta and sugar) what we pay. From J&K people can apply in any job or uni where as we were unable to get job there.
As they were giving good time by Indian Govt. The people of Kashmir still like Pakistan
July 8, 2012 - 01:44
500 horses pe aai logo ne …..
300 saal jyada raj kiya hai hindustan par except kashmire.
hind aur hindustan unhi logo ka baksha naam hai..
kasmire paindabad
jai hind…
April 15, 2013 - 00:16
I donot wht the author is complaining about..if you come out of ur state in India(whichever you belong to), and migrate to some other state, its like moving from one country to another..nobody pays special attention to you based on ur state or place you belong to..thts the falvaour of india..if you donot like the other state cultur and donot know how to adjust there u are at fault..I am from Orisaa and living in bangalore from past so many years..Even I feel nostalgic abt my village, but tht does not mean I expect bangalore to change for me..I have an impression about Kashmiris that they donot want to come out of their state and if ther come out..they donot want to adjust ..
March 7, 2012 - 18:35
If Kashmiri guys call themslves Anti-indians then why dnt they deny indian Colleges, Universities, Jobs etc.
July 8, 2012 - 01:51
mr. aaqib bhai,
suppose government take your land and its revenue resources. then bhai aap kya karoge.
kya aap apne bhai bahen ko talim chodwadoge aur apno ko aur barbad hone ke liye chod doge.
taki jo pahlehi nahi sunte hai, unse unpad gawar ki tarah ladoge.
ki aaj jaise internet baithe wase rahoge..
khuda hafize
i am with kashmire student frontsss……..
December 19, 2012 - 19:16
Adil Bhai,
Whatever you ve said is correct, there is no development in the state. But tell me, why would the govt. do so? any reasons? Your people are being given subsidized food, better job opportunities, but you guys (Only some muslims of Kashmir) keep on back stabbing the govt. Your people (same as referred to above) are only the terrorists operating in India. Tell me, if you are a bloody Indian entrepreneur from any other state of India, would you have invested in Kashmir, full of anti indian young people, ready to join terror camps, blast bombs, throw stones at important buildings? I personally wouldn’t. You couldn’t even protect the Regional Engineering College, Srinagar, to exist. At least u guys are in highlight, see the NE India, they have nothing there, they are even tired protesting and their millitancy is almost good for nothing. But now they are changing and assimilating in the diaspora, thanks to the call centers. Actually the problem in Kashmir is , “sastey mein khane ki aadat ho gayi hai aap logon ki, aur kuchh nahin”. If kashmir becomes independent, and let it be that Pakistan and China wont interfere. How would you sustain? Laddakh and Jammu will never join you 100% sure. What will you feed your generations, Chinaar’s leaves? The nearest seaport would be either Karachi or Mumbai. And you know better, what Pakistan did to Afghanistan. The day won’t be far, when like Afghanistan, your land will become a whore of Pakistan. Ask the people of Balwaristan (if you know where it is) they will tell you what’s good or bad. Lastly, if you guys want independence then you may get in future. But the day you get, you are doomed. Not by India, but by your very own muslim neighbouring country, with whom you all are madly in love with.
August 18, 2012 - 12:52
why people go to study other countries
March 7, 2012 - 22:17
i’m not also indian,i’m a kashmiri…but never thougt that indians also treat us as foreigners..i’m glad to hear that…Also kashmir needs these type of innovative lines(indians treat kashmiris as foreigners) from educated minds like you…keep it up buddy
March 17, 2013 - 04:09
Wasim,
No offense, but you are very selectively narrowing down to a small part of what the author says. He also says that by and large he has been supported and people have been sympathetic to his cause. Mostly people are warm except for a few isolated incidents.
People are immature and in school or undergraduate colleges, you have bullies who trouble others. These people would not just trouble Kashmiris but just anybody they can. I have studied in many parts of the country and also in US. I think that India by and large is very respectful and tolerant towards diversity.
Did you ever stop to think that maybe you were treated differently just like a Delhi-ite would be treated in say a Kashmiri college?? Its law of nature. We can’t help but notice people who are different from us. Its should not be taken offensively. It applies to every minority group, weather that be from Kashmir or South India or North East. Over time people warm up to these differences.
March 7, 2012 - 23:16
I sincerely hope that one day, you will be able to understand the diversity of India.
I am from Andhra Pradesh, but live in Delhi. Like you, I also dislike Delhi’s weather. Like you, I also miss my home food – the Hyderabadi biryani. Like you, I also look different because my complexion is much darker than a Delhiite. Like you, I also sometimes get discriminated because of my religion.
But unlike you, I don’t feel like a foreigner. I feel so Indian and so proud of it. My country is built on the idea that people of different religion, color, cultures can live together. There will always be minor problems, but the love for my country gives me courage to deal with them.
Mr. Zaffar, everyone has to make this choice: either accept the idea of India and live happily OR keep cribbing for the rest of your life that you are treated as a foreigner.
People like Parsis and Sindhis have made a choice, and they are the most prosperous communities in India. Now it’s your turn!
March 11, 2012 - 03:25
Dude…It was nice to see your comments..But alas..It is not of any as you are replying to some people who think otherwise…
I will tell you my story..I am from a small state of Odisha…Whenever i go to any metro cities..they will tell me…Are you from that poor and backward state near to Kokotta???Because Orissa never came in any news of national importance..So somehow people of metro cities consider them me as some one different and very poor….But that does not make myself feel that i am less INDIAN…Even i can proudly say that i am more Indian than i am an Odiya also…And these are the things some educated people like this author do not understand..They don’t believe it staying in a society of different people…They don’t believe that If India is really means to be a Hindu nation…then BJP and RSS should have ruled the nation for majority of the time after independence rather than Congress party…It is really in vain to make these so called intellectual from Kashmir to understand…..They do not understand when a common Indian feels the pain to see that Lal Chowk of Kashmir is being shouting slogan to make sure Pakistan win in all the cricket match against India…These educated author understand the pain when common Indian people feels the pain that Kashmir people feels happy to put flag of Pakistan in the streets of Kashmir on the independence day of India….. Because they feel they are not obliged to understand the pain of common Indian people…But they feel to exercise their right to complain when some one put Indian flag in his hostel door???? Such a blatant hypocricy ..you will only find only from these kind people…
April 15, 2012 - 14:34
That is d best answer …i adore this …its all about thinking
July 7, 2012 - 18:41
Well said dude (Hussain)…
An educated youth of India did not discriminate against anyone from any state of India on the basis of colour, creed & religion. Indians like Kashmiris as there own brothers & sisters, there could be some love-hate relationship but our destiny is to stay together. There are good people & bad people everywhere in the world & the bad people always wants to take advantage of any outsider who is not aware of local city.
July 8, 2012 - 01:53
thanks bhai,
we together support one india.
love is only medicine to all hate.
July 8, 2012 - 02:06
salam hussain sir,
i respect your thoughts, bcoz you from south india, where people are of more polite nature then any of other north india. you never face riots. we are naver being respected.
our masjid’s are not safer, our girls never go to school, come and see our prosperity sir.
our ancester are one of big trader, but know local mla has take it from us after roits..
see from our eyes also, then you feel .005% of our pain.
khuda hafize
August 29, 2012 - 19:21
i like u r comment
and feel proud to see this tipe off comment
i really give my bless to u
and plz take my prnam(foot touch)to ur parents who give that inspiretion for the nation
jai hind
January 31, 2013 - 04:05
I agree with you. Most of us who arrive in a city like Delhi who come from different parts of the India experience culture shock – we look, speak and feel different to your average “Delhiite”. So many of us from different parts of the country can relate to your experiences. But no one should have an Indian identity forced upon them – we choose our identity, that’s our right. Being told you are Indian and if not Pakistani is sad to here.
I am also very concerned by these stories of Kashmiris being targeted by Indian police just on the basis of being Kashmiri! This is terrible. The Indian armed forces occupation of Kashmir is wrong. The Indian government’s agenda against all of those who feel this way is also very wrong. Regardless of which side of the fence you stand, I think most of us would agree that having your home overrun by armed personnel is not a safe environment for women and children, and definitely not the way a society should be.
I hope that your studies in JNU continue to broaden your knowledge and understanding. I hope that you can take these experiences with you to help Kashmir grow and strengthen. All the best.
March 7, 2012 - 23:30
True lines from a proud Kashmiri.I wanted to thank you for the terrific job you did. The bottom line is that I really appreciate sincerity diligence and effort you put into giving us a quality article.Way to go, comrade!:)
January 30, 2013 - 09:21
we demand freedom & it means only freedom nothing less or more…..we love indian people so much but we hate indian system in kashmir……..
March 8, 2012 - 19:34
@ Hussain…its not only the differences in these said character….what he has written is a metaphor…you are missing the actual meaning…n choosing on accepting to live with India would mean to forget that we lost 1 lakh ppl for our struggle,,,,,it wud mean to leagalize the illegal occupation of india over Kashmir
March 9, 2012 - 02:43
@Ikram: Ok brother! As you wish. eventually the choice is yours – you can either use big words like struggle, illegal occupation and continue leading a sad life OR you can understand/embrace/improve India and lead a prosperous life with the people who matter the most – your family and kids.
February 8, 2013 - 21:37
@You mean to say either stay with India or Sad life, no third option.
June 7, 2012 - 21:27
it is 2 lakh killed moron, which i am unhappy about, we kill all 35 lakh, the problem will be solved, then india will legally occupy kashmir, by settling hindus there,
March 22, 2013 - 17:52
I am a hindu, and believe too much in my religion. And this belief only, gives me the power and patience to accept all the religions in their own form. Don’t call yourself a hindu militant, just militant is the word. A militant never has a religion. And for anyone who thinks muslims are bad, just think of Dr. Abdul Kalam, the guy who gave India “the balls” to say that we are a country with nuclear power and we can defend ourselves from any one including Pakistan and China.
For all muslims who say that bad things have happened to them, I agree. But the fact remains that bad things happened to hindu pandits also who were displaced from their own land.
Bad things in this country happen to people who are innocent, and actually don’t have much say in any of the affairs.
The real bastards are fundamentalists, who take advantage of these incidents and radicalise innocent people.
Praveen Togadia is as pathetic as Akbaruddin Owaisi.
These bombs when they kill, don’t ask for hindu’s only they kill Indians, whether they belong to any religion.
Long live India and Indians
August 18, 2012 - 13:02
Ali Adnan
Biradar they always underestime the kashmiri people. We know we are not Indians how can we forget the sacrifice of more than 1 lakh people who been killed by Indian army still we have the pain and would be the same till we die. Indians always need news to be highlighted in the world there is no better place than kashmir from them. Let them say what they have to say because south Indians are the worst enemies for kashmiris so be aware of them
March 9, 2012 - 22:49
My frst visit to india(delhi) was in endng feb 2011,i was denied room by hotelier bcoz i was frm kashmir,,,manager of hotel sad v dnt gve accomodatn to kashmiri
March 9, 2012 - 23:14
It is invain to complaint about india nd indians as i find not a single indian speaking or accepting d truth about Kashmir, indians r most selfish nd backword people, they only learned to hate muslims, so v muslims shud accept their hate nd fight back for our freedom.
March 9, 2012 - 23:28
There is no one you go and complain to . I mentioned in my comment that Indians never accept ugly realities. They ,in true senses, are hypocrits. They pretend democratically but their actuons, unfortunately, are feudal/communal. India has a growing socieety which has got to know the world but we cant wipe off the ripped ideology, which is based on religion and georgraphical distribution, out of them.. Our reach is being ceased and murdered. We have no other means to poke .Internet seems a better option .. Keep posting the real image of India … Cheers brother
March 18, 2012 - 03:54
hey article below is for fatima…
July 7, 2012 - 17:06
Internet also is a tool which is baring the true face of Islam to the world.
1. How violent your religion is.
2. How your prophet was a pedophile.
3. How he raped and married Jewish women etc.
cheers.
July 8, 2012 - 02:18
don’t currupt the name of south india, they are humble and truthfull persons for decades.(sorry for…)
i can also become hardliner (for eg)
1 ram ji live his wife, on doubt of character?
2.devta play ugly politics
3.indera send his apsara for sexual relation with one of the mooni, how disgusting is this.
4.cant eat meat on tuesday, bcoz wo bhagwan ka din hai, to kya baki kya ….
5can’t give part of property to girls
6.bammad are human and dalits are pigs, wah re visnu bhagwan
i can also do this… every religion is not perfect, its your eyes that how you see humans..
jai ramji ki….
maaf kijiye ga…
May 2, 2013 - 22:34
Trust me, if we really were communal-minded, there wouldn’t be a single Kashmiri Muslim alive today. We would have done to you people, exactly what Hitler did to the Jews. You are very lucky we are not.
March 18, 2012 - 03:45
madam…first of all problem wid kashmir is religion not place…a state wid majority muslim population is controlled by a hindu dominated country…that is pblm…u ppl cant think out of ur religion…shame on you.. i have been to kashmir once and i can bet u kashmir is so backward that no other indian state can match it..so think twice or may be more before u comment anything…n i dont understand already kashmir has been ripped into 3 parts..even then u want it to be out of indias control…okay suppose it happened..then what next u will ask china to give it back and then from pak….what is wrong wid u ppl have u ever thought how will u survive everything which u need to develop lies in india..land is not everything…its ppl who make a place better..stop fighting for religion and contribute to development of j & k instead of creating unrest…if u cant then atleast control ur sentiments and dont misguide others…gud luck
June 7, 2012 - 21:28
Thankyou for compliments, we are selfish and backward ppl who hate kashmiri muslims, now get out of india, leave kashmir the land here, we settle hindus there, problem solved
January 3, 2013 - 15:53
kashmir belongs to pakistan only. love pakistan
February 23, 2013 - 01:17
I have great empathy for peoples who have lost their lives in kashmir at the hands of Indian Military. So far …so good..But please give me a single reason why india should not consider Kashmir to be it integral part.Just because majority of your population is Muslim.No offence ,but i will have to say i have never come to islamic majority country which is secular.However you go out and see, if you find any HIndu Republic, Buddhist republic or for that matter any christian republic.
I have failed to understand why Islam is so intolerant and so unaccomodative.
Today you take kashmir , but give me Jammu and Laddak for its majority Kashmiri Pundits, who were driven away by you.They were not 1 Laks but more than 7 Lakh. You are so selective and religiously motivated that you overlook the fact that RELIGION IS FOR PEOPLE and not PEOPLE ARE FOR RELIGION.
March 9, 2012 - 23:16
WE kashmiris have Indian Passports – whioch technically makes us Indians .Let me tell you al-we are indians by force, not by choice . The idea of democracy gets blurred in India . Nelson Mandela once said ” If indians think they are living in a democratic nation , they are 100% wrong” ..Thatz to say , the Indian society is intollerent and is not ready to accept the ugly reality… I am not an Indian , I am a Kashmiri , My identity is Kashmir, My blood has Kashgmir in it. I am a Man with no nation to support, no nation to celeberate the national day or independence day of.I am a kashmiri and that is my true identity , and unfortunately , that is your problem.. Give me my country back, give my soil back to me , give me back my heaven .. I will be a non-indian untill my last breath… Meri jaan se pyaari Aazadi, Meri rajdulaari aazadi …
June 7, 2012 - 21:30
we are ugly soceity who dont accept reality, u accept reality, kashmir stays with india with or without you, we kill u all, problems solved
March 9, 2012 - 23:43
Okay,
This is a misleading article,
I am a Kashmiri and I am an Indian.
I love India, I have friends in Many parts of this country. My brother works in a Gujrat based Company, loves the culture.
Who doesn’t face discrimination. I faced it, Kashmiri Pandits faced it in Kashmir, Sikhs faced in 1984, etc, etc.
Truth is, we have a system in place and we need to follow that with peace, with calmness.
March 18, 2012 - 03:27
hii…u seem to be a nice citizen of this country…i respect your mentality…if every kashmiri will think like you then kashmir will see heights of development n prosperity…
March 10, 2012 - 08:01
M proud to be a kashmiri
but never an Indian
June 7, 2012 - 21:30
we rape and kill u simple, how can dead ppl ask for azadi?
October 21, 2012 - 23:43
stop posting under a fake name….i know u r a muslim & u r hurt becoz terror has become synonymous with Islam….ppl like u are to blame
May 2, 2013 - 22:27
NO ONE CARES!
March 11, 2012 - 04:17
nice article bro. This is India(a democratic country) where you live and can say you are not Indian. Think can you do the same in any other part of this planet. I have some Kashmiri friends with me in my college but no one treated them as foreigner as you mentioned above. there can be some problems with India but you cannot qes. on the biggest democratic country in the world.
There are certain reasons behind why some people dont have faith in Kashmiries. we saw a lot of terrorist activities in past and some Kashmiri boys were include in that but I am not saying they are right.
1 more thing some friends said that we hate muslims. Can any1 tell me how is it true. I think we all live here as brother. we already saw 1 partition(Pakistan) on the name of relegion so we are a little bit sensitive on this matter.
But without being modest I want to say kashmir is a part of India. Please read the history of kashmir and you will come to know how I can say this. at the end I wanna say however you hate us but we love you……..
March 13, 2012 - 22:33
Islamophobia is not the post 9×11 phenomenon.The discrimination you have experienced is probably due to exclusivity we maintain because of our mistrust of the other be that in the valley or outside.
I know of many Muslims(non-Kashmir’s) fail to get places on rent for having Ahmad or Mohammad as their second name. If some manage to get a place maids are often reluctant to work for them for the reasons landlords shoo them away.
Similar biases against Kashmiri Pandits forced them out of the valley you fondly,like me,miss. No place can take out the salubrious valley out of us,but the biases ,nursed by those who have no stomach for discussion and debate ,take the better of us….It is long path ahead .It healthy to ask in Kashmiri:”Ahansaa ti kyazi nasaa ti why?”
March 18, 2012 - 03:22
hii…i really appreciate what adil has written….i request all kashmiris not to waste their life about arguing about the place whose history u dont remember its very unfortunate though……and somewhere in heart u also know best future of kashmir lies with india…so come out of dilemma of azadi n all…n once there is peace in kashmir army will be removed…so its u kashmiri who need to support to make our kashmir a better place to live..if u have so much pain for ur kashmiri bros then what about kashmiri pandits…nobody talks about them no feelings at all…how can u be so partial…u miss ur place when u go out for furthes studies n job whatever then think about them who have been made homeless and are wandering for last 20 years..dont u ppl have humanity at all….u still have home where u can go back and meet ur loving ones and still u show so much pain…even kashmiri pandits dont cry so much as u ppl do..dont be hippocrate…zindagi ek baar hi milti hai…so live it to fullest and give some contribution to development of india n make all of us proud…rest is up to you….gud luck..god bless u all…
April 2, 2012 - 18:39
@Hussain, i just want to tell u one thing. British people developed India during their rule in India. The great Indian Railways, Universities and big big Architectural designs are from British rule. WHY DID INDIANs DEMAND FREEDOM IF BRITISH RULE WAS GIVING YOU EVERYTHING. What was it that made people die for the independence of india. Hope u ll reply and answer my question.
June 7, 2012 - 21:32
yes, we got our answer, now we also want azadi from kashmiri muslims like you, because kashmiri hindus consider themselves india, now we dont die for india, we kill (people like u) for india,
jai hind
June 13, 2012 - 16:04
Hindu Militant BHai! Army me to hoge nahin…ghar baithe baithe maar daaloge kyaa??? Hitler ko aaj bhee log hate hee karte hain even germans, polissh and everyone!!! So chillax maaro!!! Aur haan kabhi Srinagar mein Shankaracharya temple jaan zaroor! Shivji bheee wahan khush hain! Tum pata kahan ho pata nahi…maarne kee baat karte ho! Kuch kar sakte ho toh jaake ek school kholo sopore ya baramulla mein aaur gareeb sbachon ko education do. usme bhee desh kaa bhala hee hoga. India ko hee fayda hoga! hamla toh geedhad aur ssamp bhee karte hain — Toh aapme aur usme kya farak hai???
July 8, 2012 - 02:30
800 saal me hindu to marate rahe, aab kya jhat uchad lege.
tab bhi fattu ab bhi fattu.
bhai ye aaisa religion hai jo kabhi gulami bardast nahi karta, balki gulam bana leta hai gusse me.
so please apni gadha dimak aapne pass rakh…baat mat khatam ho jaiga..
we love hindu muslim parsses etc..
March 3, 2013 - 11:38
saamne se milega? Pata chalega kaun kiska jhant ukhadta hai woh? kaun fattu hai pata chalega.
June 13, 2012 - 16:21
Beenum Dear!
The fight against Britishers was against their imperialism and their blood sucking nature!! Our(yours and our) Govt. structure want to develop one of the most lagging population of the world. There are visionaries who want to create SEZ in J&K so as to boost up the economy from from its present 60K Crores INR for a population of 1.25 crore. Govt is trying hard to inculcate a sense of momentum of change for good and education and food and security!!!
dil cheez kya hai aap meri jaan lijiye
bus ek baar mera kaha maan lijiye!!!!
April 10, 2012 - 05:37
You should have gone Pakistan for higher education why JNU. it was JNU an Indian university which allowed you to conduct symposium. you can even try this in Pakistan. This is selfish nature of Kashmiris Muslim who got all benefits from India, and still are ungrateful. if you hate India leave India and go Pakistan and see what u will get there,
May 29, 2012 - 20:50
I would first like to apologise on the behalf of the country if you were made to feel uncomfortable during your stay in Delhi and I also accept Indians are the most racist in the world. But I just want to ask you a small question, whether you tried to join in to the celebrations after the match. I guess if you did no one would ever have the right to treat you differently. I am a Bengali by birth but I have lived in Mumbai for 25 years of my life I love Mumbai more than Kolkata and Maharashtra more than Bengal but I completely dislike the fact that some Marathis call themselves Maharashtrians first and Indians later. I have friend who is Kashmiri, He is as much a brother to me as my own and so are you and that is what makes me Indian. I lived in Pune for 4 years and faced a bit of racism but barring a few idiots I have the best memories of my life there made friends for life. Love is out there you just need to look. Now I am in london for the last three years I still have difficulties adjusting and I call England as much as my own as I call India. It hurts me when some one degrades England as much as when someone degrades India. I join in there every celebration I was even happy that England won against India though disappointed that India lost (A moral dilemma) and this is how you belong. It is not a right it is a privilege and you have to work for it. By posting such comments you are just pushing yourself further away and you will create a greater rift (Will further reduce the trust of Indians have on Kashmiri’s and make life worse for future Kashmiris and this is your fault not rest of Indians) If we have done some thing wrong in the past please forgive us as you would your family and make an effort to belong and I am sure one day you will be proud to be an Indian.
Ps: Please visit Mumbai that is true India where diverse people live without any discrimination and I am sure no one will ever ask you where you are from.
May 30, 2012 - 20:18
hello frds
some body claimed that they r kashmiri not indian, when u said this word, no sigle rupee loss for all indians but for u, i regret for such a situation in kashmir, i know many hate becasue of military activity, but i want to remaind one thing i am from tamilnadu, indian congress killed 2 lakh people in srilanka , we also human only, we also hate but not country, the specific ruler, dont think me bad , come out of ur religion thought, still if u want ur country back(in your point of view), first go to paki and china get it then come to india , i have a frd from ur state , think positively, do u think u can win india and its power, if u think go ahead , congrats
August 18, 2012 - 13:13
Brother dont forget when Indian government told you people to leave country and go to srilanka sri lankans dont want you people there and they fucked you and send back to india.Then why you ppl crib you not indians however our case is different we were not indians we are not indians and we will not die indians thats promise to all indians and mostly people from south india
June 1, 2012 - 17:05
”I am indian I am kashmiri”
Well,i am kashmiri,i request all kashmiris that it is time for us to show to world how we can contribute to india and world by invovations,art,rich cultre which we have.Lets make kashmir a ”real janat” Azaadi and freed is all for poltitions and not for the common man.
So lets think beyond Zaamini Azaadi…
June 13, 2012 - 15:53
My dear kashmiri Brothers and Sisters!
I read and analyzed all that is being said, and understood that Kashmiris don’t like the face of India! Tanveer Fatima says Indians and Hindus hate Muslims which is not true. SHE IS TRYING TO SPREAD HATRED AND FLARING UP THE DISCONTENMENT. I must tell her that throughout my life I have loved to be with muslim friends and neighbours! Here I aver my first love was also a Muslim girl (last name: Tanwir), my father’s best friend was muslim and another muslim friend of mine married a hindu boy!!! So where is the question of Hindus hating Muslims!!
The word Kashmir is itself Vedic and the land has been the adobe of not just the present day muslims but also Buddhist, Hindus, Afghanis and Swati Rulers. the problems started when Sultãn Sikandar Butshikan of Kashmir (AD 1389-1413) and his (former Brahmin) minister Saif ud-Din started to share hatred against other religions which continues till date.
Lets us stop this war of humans against humans where no one wins but we land into a state of murder, atrocities, children being orphaned!!
Kashmir is lovely place, Kashmiris are beautiful people, All religions teach good things! Its our KASHMIR! Yours first who were born there, mine second because I cannot differentiate if I or my blood is different from you!!!!
I request Greats of Kashmir Independence Movement to rope in few greats like Azim Premji or Narayan Murthy to start the biggest IT park at SRINAGAR!!
Lets see how we progress there after!!
I love you all!!!
June 13, 2012 - 16:25
Kya banane chale they aur kyaa banaa baithe
kahin mnadir banaa baithe aur kahin masjid banaa baithe
humse achhe to ye parinde hain jo
kabhi mandir me jaa baithe aur kabhi masjid mein jaa baithe!!
June 13, 2012 - 16:37
I want to confess one thing here! I am 70 years old now and have worked for the freedom movement of Kashmir since my memories take me back! But now I confess that I was paid money many times by my leaders who got it from Pakistan. I was a true fighter for the development of Kashmir but now I realize that Pakistan just wants to get its grudge squared against India for which it funds us. It is possible that the day we get our Azaadi from India, Pakistan will enter here and snatch our land from us!! India is much better place to live in the world then staying as an independent country surrounded by three monsters – China, Pak and India! U never when China swallowes us and when Pakistan captures us and labels us Muhajeers!!
June 17, 2012 - 17:40
Great article br Zaffar, “warey asl”. You’re right, I always get mistaken for being Afghan in Delhi too – in fact, the police at entrance of Taj Mahal wouldn’t believe that I was an Indian passport holder and forced me to pay the “foreigner” entrance fee which is of course alot more than the Indian entrance fee! I guess “katsur” (that means ginger for the Indians who are reading) hair ain’t common in those parts! We, in the Valley of Kashmir, are of course a Central Asian race, not an Indic race and so its only natural that we don’t feel part of the Indian empire and nor do they accept us. The majority of us are indigenous to the valley and converted from Hinduism to Islam 700 years ago. The rest of us are Muslims (originally from Iran, Afghan, Northern Pak etc) who settled in Kashmir whilst trading on the silk route between Turkey and China. The problem with Indians and Hindus is that they have an issue accepting that Kashmir hasn’t been Hindu for 700 years. Neither was Kashmir geographically a part of the Indic peoples until it was forcefully annexed by the Dogra tyrants from Jammu. Jammuites are no different to Punjabis who are an Indic race so those are the only people in J&K who feel “Indian”.
July 18, 2012 - 17:55
Dear Ahmed, let me clear you one thing. I am a rpoud Indian from Nagaland. Those terrorist back in Nagalnd who wants independence from India are small section of rotten and sick minded people who doesnt know the greatness of this country. But the general public, aam junta loves India as their country and this is with all the other 7 states of the NE( They love and like to be Indians)
Now for mainland mistaking you people to be Afghans…so what, we have been mistaken for chinese, Nepalese, Thais etc…but thats not the ultimatum to give statment that we are no Indians. Remember a Mizo CM being asked in one Bangalore hotel which country r u from???
NE Indians are most discriminated in this country. But still we dont sit and write crap and monger against India. Still we try to reason with main Indians that we too are Indians, accept us as Indians. Thats the reason NE Indians are everywhere in mainstream now, may it be politics, sports, culture etc etc. We have marked and are still going great to show that though we are diffrent in looks we are Indian. Love your country as we love. Hope u got some sense. JAI HIND!!!
March 22, 2013 - 18:16
Hats off to you!!
I know NE are discriminated, may a time s by some arrogant bastards. To state a fact even when I was in student life, I used to call them chinki, a bloody ass I was. But as we all speak about Kashmir here, which is no doubt an integral part of India, we should also be aware that NE is a much ignored part of this country. I hope we come out of this vote bank politics someday, and that day we will all be Indians, and then of any other religion, caste or creed.
Onus is upon us, just treat every one around you as an Indian for 1 day and forget to which religion do they belong, and you will see the change.
July 30, 2012 - 16:26
Brother you are wrong in believing that 700 years ago kashmiris were hindus. This is propaganda of hindu pandits who have always been a minority in kashmir. Kashmiri language and people belonged to the same dardic heritage that people of northeastern afghanistan, northern pakistan belonged. An average kashmiri was either a Buddist or practiced a dardic aboriginal polythistic religion like the one practiced even to this day by dardic kalash tribe residing in Chitral nortern pakistan. Hindu pandits(brahmins) came in kashmir with the hindu invaders in the valley during the first Millenium A.D.
May 2, 2013 - 23:21
Definitely not a history major!
July 6, 2012 - 21:13
I am kashmiri
I am kashmiri kill me said he is terrorist.
I am kashmiri arrest me said he is stone pelter.
I am kashmiri beat me said he defy curfew.
I am kashmiri this is my big crime.
I want islamic rule this is my crime.
I hate india this is my crime.
I love kashmir & kashmiri nation this is my crime no india no pakistan we want free kashmir this is my big crime.
July 18, 2012 - 17:58
u lost ur mind dear. How sad! Learn from we North east Indians like Nagas, Mizos, Assamese etc etc how to love India. U will get the ans.
August 18, 2012 - 14:44
@ zaheer
I care a crap about the rest of your rantings. But if you hate India, then I guess AFSPA and such other laws are really required to look after you people well!
May 2, 2013 - 23:11
Your biggest crime was being born! LOL.
July 7, 2012 - 16:58
@ SM Zaffar
what a pathetic display of Islamofacism. India is a very decent country and 180 million muslims live here happily. Kashmir does not belong to Muslims alone. There are Pandits, Dogras and other Hindus. I am sure India government will never listen to fools like you. Your fate in Pakistan will be no better than what Ahmedis are facing right now. You will be killed for not being the right muslim.
I was saddened by the reports that a lot of Kashmiris got killed during the past decades. But my country will never allow Kashmir away – whatever the costs. Muslims have this habit of populating areas which do not belong to them and then demand Islamisation- like in indinesia and Malasiya. Your idea of a free kashmir will never work out. You Kashmiris will massacare and cleanse ethinically all Sikhs, Pndits, Hindus and Budhists left in the valley. I will take a bet on it.
Sorry bro- you are barking up the wrong tree.
July 30, 2012 - 16:36
I cannot understand why a south indian ape has so much obsession with a totally unrelated region kashmir and with its muslims kashmiri folks.
May 2, 2013 - 22:52
Actually, they aren’t! They do not derive their sense of self and esteem from their geo-political position. You Kashmiri Muslim pigs self-project your own flaws and failures onto other peoples. And I blame the media for this, for giving you the false sense of significance. You people are good-for-nothing losers who haven’t contributed anything of significance to humanity for your past 700 years of existence. To be frank, very few outside Kashmir even care about you people really. We are already in possession of your land. What are you going to do about it? If you try to fuck us again, you will only end up fucking yourselves as usual. LOL.
July 10, 2012 - 01:15
I AM PAKISTANI AND KASHMIRI KASHMIR BANAY GA PAKISTAN GAY HIND BHARAT MATA KI GAAND MAIN LUND ……FUCKIN INDIAN FILTHIEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD SUPER POWER IN DREAMS ITS MATTER OF TIME NO USA IN AFGHANISTAN KASHMIR WILL BE HELL FOR INDIA AND HINDUS BHARAT TERI MAUT AAI LASHKAR AAI LASHKAR AAI
July 18, 2012 - 17:59
Many of the Paki pigs are here in disguise writing crap on behalf of kashmiris. Pak shall be wiped out of this world in the future. I mean they merge with India again. Believe me. JAI HIND!
August 18, 2012 - 14:46
@ Akbar
Wow. You really sound like a Kashmir-loving, Islam-loving, Quran-abiding, Mohammed-worshipping Muslim there. Keep it up! Such sweet language of peace and ‘submission’! May Allah grant you Jannat for this language alone!
July 18, 2012 - 18:05
To the moderator….PLS REMOVE THE POSTER WHICH DEPICTS NAGALIM, MANIPUR AND ASSAM. We are absolute Indians unlike the way you think and write crap here. The name which u have depicted is an insult to we NE Indians. WE LOVE INDIA! JAI HIND!
July 28, 2012 - 01:35
Zafar,
Two things i don’t like about Delhi. It’s weather and it’s people.
The Common thing between the two is that they are both harsh and aggressive!!
July 30, 2012 - 16:40
Dont try to brag yourself two much , how aggressive you hindus are we know very well, you are the most weak and coward people in the whole world.
August 18, 2012 - 14:50
@ Kashmirian
Thanks for the kind words. Please don’t go crying to Pakistan for help, since your enemy is so cowardly and weak in your opinion. Where is the need? They anyway kick your backside black and blue, ask USA for money in your name and spend it on renovating Generals’ bungalows!
May 2, 2013 - 22:23
Yes, it was the ‘coward’ and ‘weak’ Kashmiri Hindus who drove and expelled almost the entire ‘tolerant’, ‘secular’, and ‘pluralistic’ Kashmiri Muslim community from the valley in 1989 and 1990.
August 18, 2012 - 13:27
I am proud to be kashmiri, i dont like india niegther indians all ppl from north east or south indians dont like kashmiris as we are diffirent and more influential. South indians not happy becoz kashmir an international issue we have support from everywhere in world real support from Iran, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Iraq, etc because they know we are one of them. so best policy is let indians bark
I am kashmiri
I am Hizbollah
i Want my kashmir back
Give my heaven back
Labika ya hussian
October 13, 2012 - 22:45
hi all,
i have visited kashmir last week,actually its a heaven …i liked it…people are very good … govt has to improve more job and education opportunities…But u people are safe with india compared to pakistan and china…atleast yu have freedom….
Jai hind………….
November 4, 2012 - 05:12
Im a Kashmiri living in Kashmir and let me make it clear to you indians what kashmiris think. Say if tomorrow China was to occupy india and then make it a part of china. What would you say? You are chinese then? Same is with Kashmir. We were never ever a part of india and never will be. Kashmir is an internationally recognized dispute.
I dont hate any common indians, but i hate indian army, indian government and any indian who continues to say that kashmir is a part of india like a donkey. There was Jihad in kashmir in 1989, that movement is a bit weak now due to some reasons which but the sentiment for freedom is the greatest at this point of time. InshAllah, jihad will start again and believe me this indian army you boast of are cowards and weak subhumans, for every single mujahid in Kashmir india has 3000 army men. lol Bravery??
November 4, 2012 - 11:20
@ ahmad kashmir
I admire your Jehadi spirit. I reiterate the point that I have made before in previous comments. Islam does not believe in territorial boundaries. Therefore, an Islam-quoting fight for territorial disputes is an unislamic anachronism. Making it an excuse for violent actions against innocent citizens (of Kashmir!) is heinous. Propogating hate (note how many times you have used that word above) on such fictitious issues is a crime in the eyes of God (Allah, if you please!). Get over it. The faster, the better!
Second point: There was a time when every state, perhaps district, in India was no less than a seperate nation. The time is long gone. J&K can not be an exception to this. Please stop sc**wing up your life and those of others by offering justifications for ruthless murderers and their despicable acts, lest others find it tempting to emulate you!
November 4, 2012 - 14:11
@ ahmad kashmir
QUOTE: “i don’t hate common Indians but i hate indian army, indian government and any indian who continues to say that kashmir is a part of india like a donkey”
Try this and tell me how it feels:
“I don’t hate all kashmiris but i hate the jehadi crooks, their bloodthirsty cronies in Hurriyat and anyone – kashmiri or otherwise – who keeps saying azadi and jihad like a hallucinating pig”
Do I match you in hyperbole?
May 2, 2013 - 22:18
Yes, we can see that; as Jammu and Kashmir has been freed from Indian control and is now the Islamic Republic of Kashmir; with its capital at Srinagar and Jammu. LMAO. OK sarcasm aside, all the peoples of the Indian subcontinent; be they Indian citizens, Nepalese, Sri Lankans, Maldivians, Pakistanis (except Baloch), and the Pakhtuns of Afghanistan are Indian by geography. Since Kashmir is geographically a part of the Indian subcontinent, Kashmiris are not an exception.
December 16, 2012 - 00:04
I’ve been to Kashmir twice.. And love it.. There are some issues (serious issues) but its not like any other country doesn’t has issues.. It was all peaceful before 1989..
And to those saying Kashmir was never a part of india.. Go check your history and your facts.. Kashmir has always been India..
Try acting Indians again and see the difference..
I guarantee each and every Indian feels the pain when even one of our Kashmiri people die..
There’s no hatred in our hearts.. Just love..
December 19, 2012 - 19:37
Dear Zafar Bhai,
Your article was very touching and informative. But I have one question about your Lavass and Noon Chai stuff. I understand that the life at your village/ native place is very easy going and simple. But as people say that Kashmir is the Switzerland of India, is it really a Switzerland. I mean, how much revenue do your people earn, you have any idea? Well with all due respects, the Swiss are enterprising people and have an advanced economy, much more than India. But in Switzerland the locals don’t have time to fool around. The people in Kashmir can enjoy Chai and Nashta because they dont have jobs out there. You are already getting Food at 1/4 rate, cheaper than the Ration, the Below Poverty Line people get. That’s why you can earn a small amount and live life like a noble. Let’s assume you guys get freedom, now Jammu and Laddakh won’t join you, that you know. What will you do? join Pakistan (don’t tell you want to go Afghan’s way), if not then what will you feed your generation, without cutting trees for wheat fields, or without making a single factory, ever thought? Wake up Sir, you are an educated man. Don’t talk like a kid or a bard. The Chai you sip comes from Assam and the bread from Punjab. There is NO BIG AGRICULTURE production in your Kashmir District other than Apples and Kesar. Let Kashmir be what it is, and savour its protected Kashmiriyat. Let us stay together and join the rat race of competition. Problem are there in every state, but we have learned to adjust.
January 6, 2013 - 17:22
hym…
dear’s,just coz of idiot government v can’t hate our country this should be published and all indian’s should protest against it…..
February 3, 2013 - 02:11
As a Kashmiri from Poonch, I am simply amazed the duplicity of the author. On one hand he is enjoying the freedom of expression in India and on the other he is uncomfortable living in India. Maybe it is typical of the valley people – heads I win tails I lose. Try using freedom of speech in Lahore or even in Kotli.
February 9, 2013 - 14:17
Hindus never hate muslims as lot of Indian muslims have climbed up to good posts and have also earned a good amount of wealth.They want to be identified as Indians only as they are indians in any case. But Kashmiris and mostly muslims over there always have dreamt of living with Pakistan or under Islamic Law which ironically in India is difficult to exist. It is a well known fact that Hindus in Kashmir were virtually driven away. No kashmiri Muslim even shed a tear for them.Kashmir Land belongs to India and Indians should ensure thatLand is thiers.Whichever Kamiris do not want to stay in India,they can go to places of thier choice.But a kashmiriwho wants to stay should have his loyalties with India.If i do not like India, there is no point staying in Indian Land and trying to create sympathy that i am wronged.
Bharat Mata ki Jai
February 13, 2013 - 10:48
Okay Mr.Zaffar , you don’t identify yourself as an Indian .
But what was the reason your ancestors drove us Kashmiri Pandits out ? Does one have to be a muslim to be a Kashmiri ?
I am a kashmiri Pandit and i was too young when the expulsion of Kashmiri Pandits took place but my parents remember to vividly . Thank god we didn’t loose anyone but imagine us leaving our homes and that too the neighbors forcing us to do so by force , The neighbors which we trusted once , shared joy’s and sorrows with , Celebrated occasions with , Trusted . They turned on us .
So I’m sorry Mr.Zaffar but i believe that the situation will not solve itself by separation of kashmir . When kashmir will achieve Civil peace then all its problems will disappear and for that the kashmiri muslims need to change their attitude and stop supporting separatist parties .
February 18, 2013 - 20:12
they only see human right violation against muslims. kashmiri pandits and fauji are not human. they don’t have families. they don’t feel pain. who were killing the pandits and soldiers?? kashmiri jihadi terrorists. killing of terrorists were the reaction of the army and it was just. there could have been atrocities, but aate ke saath ghun toh pista he hai. agar soldiers aur panditon ko marne dete toh inko koi problem nhi thi. think again
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March 26, 2013 - 06:23
Have studied with Kashmiris for several years in the university.The mentality they hv displayed here is exactly wat they used to display there.It hurts sometimes seeing no matter how much you will love and accomodate them , they will only frown,complain and hate.Which religion teaches this? If you are true Islamists how can you hate Hindus?Is this what Kuran teaches? Even if you want to separate, how and why do you deny how India has spent biggest chunks of income tax deducted from rest of us on thankless people like you for over 2 decades now?
March 26, 2013 - 06:29
Have studied with Kashmiris for several years in the university.The mentality they hv displayed here is exactly wat they used to display there.It hurts sometimes seeing no matter how much you will love and accomodate them , they will only frown,complain and hate.Which religion teaches this? If you are true Islamists how can you hate Hindus?Is this what Kuran teaches? Even if you want to separate, how and why do you deny how India has spent biggest chunks of income tax deducted from rest of us on thankless people like you for over 2 decades now?True Kashmiri muslims hv suffered? But Kashmiri pundits hvnt? Army personnel who get killed there dnt hv families? ?People terrorists keep killing in blasts dnt hv families?What ll happen to you peopke if child of each person in India affected by Islamic hatred picks a gun and turns its hatred on Kashmir? India is a very tolerant country,many Indian Muslims are more patriotic than Hindus I know.Dnt spread your hatred here.If you feel so discriminated go back to Kashmir or PAk or whereever the hell you want.
March 26, 2013 - 06:35
Have studied with Kashmiris for several years in the university.The mentality they hv displayed here is exactly wat they used to display there.It hurts sometimes seeing no matter how much you will love and accomodate them , they will only frown,complain and hate.Which religion teaches this? If you are true Islamists how can you hate Hindus?Is this what Kuran teaches? Even if you want to separate, how and why do you deny how India has spent biggest chunks of income tax deducted from rest of us on thankless people like you for over 2 decades now?True Kashmiri muslims hv suffered? But Kashmiri pundits hvnt? Dnt spread your hatred here.If you feel so discriminated go back to Kashmir or PAk or whereever the hell you want.
March 27, 2013 - 17:13
@Tvaya zuu great what a study made by u can ask u how we are thankless it is if we don;t pay tax it is as if kashmiri are BPL are are fed by your income Tex let me be clear we are being treated as Colony Our Natural Resoures used not for us, Power Porjects Built not for Kashmir and People with
And HOW Simple it is SAY GO BACK TO PAK OR TO HELL . GO BACK TO PAK,,
AS IF WE HAVE CAME FROM THERE..
March 29, 2013 - 14:21
@ Gulzar Khan,
Please don’t go to Pak. Stay here. It seems you love life under the twin shadow of terrorist guns and AFSPA too much! Such fun!! To top it all, you have the bottled djin called Gilani issuing protest fatwas. Wow! I envy you, lucky bugger!!
Too bad, one day it will all come to an end, with the scrapping of article 370. Enjoy until then! Jihad roxxx!!
March 27, 2013 - 20:46
I forward tvaya zuu’s views and so what u are paying the taxes. Kashmiri’s(dont want to be indians) are anyway depriving the Indians of their share. Everything is subsidised for you. And you talk abt being treated as an Irani. Well if u considered yourself a part of India from the beginning this would not have happened. How is it that Kashmiri Pandits are not treated a Foreigners while Muslims are, since both of them look the same. Pandits are able to gel into the Indian Fabric coz’ they know they are Indians and not aliens. Well i guess Kashmiri Muslims think of themselves as aliens to Indians and India and want to be treated as such and that is why they see Indians discriminating against them. Well Kashmiri Muslims need to open their eyes and realise something that, India is a diverse country and so people will look different all the time. Yet the differences could be overcome had u been proud of your Indian identity. Coz’ this identity unites all Indians. Those who dont think of themselves as Indians will obviously have issues with identity. Kashmiri Pandits dont have them coz’ they are clear with their Indian identity. Anyway, what did the Kashmiri identity give the Pandits, exile, and bloodshed by their own people. Indian identity atleast saved them, that they found a place in India. Clearly Kashmiri identity is nothing to be proud of if it offers just death/exile to the people of one faith and benefits to the people of other faith.If Kashmiri identity is so biased then hell with it. So, Mr. Writer bear in mind that when Kashmiri Muslims gave slogans like this: ‘Raliv Chaliv ya Galiv’ to the pandits , or ‘Assi gachi panu’nay pakistan, batav rostuy, batenein saan’( source: our moon has blood clots) while cleaning Kashmir of Pandits which is the worst human right’s violation, they lost all the rights to be treated as equals in India. And your position further degraded with Afzal Guru ‘s Parliament Bombing. Dont go around whining abt. being treated unfairly by common indians in Delhi whom your folks have hurt. Indians are with you as long as unjust treatments by the army is concerned, coz’ we are a nation of noble people and we value human life. But it is high time to reflect on the actions of your people embracing Jehadi Islam and then having caused the exodus of Pandits. Even girls from Kashmir view Jehad as right, girls who have supposedly Engineering degrees from Kashmir. May God give some sense and ability to rationally view things to Kashmiri Muslims and give up the fanatical drive for Azaadi.
March 27, 2013 - 22:22
@ Anonymous India we dont need your Lecture >>> Keep for yourself and
we know Facts and have power to Think ….
March 30, 2013 - 15:20
What I gave you were facts, what you have are fabrications and distortions of history. What you have is irrationality and parochialism. Open your mind to the bloodshed that Kashmiri Muslims have condoned.
May 2, 2013 - 22:05
You Kashmiri Muslims are the most hypocritical, narcissistic, bigoted, communal-minded, narrow-minded, and brain-washed people on the entire Indian sub-continent. Even Pakistanis are far better than you people.
April 1, 2013 - 21:17
Well, I have some strong disagreements with you. First, I would like to point out that it were the kashmiris who gave anti Indian statements, Indian flag burning etc. This is always in news and still you wonder why Indians developed anti kashmiri sentiment. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction bro, newtons words hold true everywhere. You hated us so we hated you back. What’s so surprising about this? Secondly, I know many Kashmiri people as I’m a kashmiri pundit in delhi. I never discriminate against them nor do I ever see them getting discriminated against. Everybody faces discrimination in life. Do you see me crying about how KPs were forced to leave Kashmir? Do I complain that my ancestors were made to leave and that my lost my homeland? India is my homeland and where ever I stay in India becomes my home. You have to understand one thing, Kashmiri people started the whole issue and India only reacted to it. India sent its army to Kashmir only after terrorism. Any country would do so to save its national border. Kashmir can’t be claimed as its always been a part of India. That way every state would start demanding separation. No, that just won’t happen buddy, Kashmir is first India’s then people of the state. National interest is higher than state interest. If I move into a house on rent and then after few years start demanding that landlord give my my room permanently or I’ll resort to violence, what do you think he will do? India is doing the same. Please maintain peace in Kashmir, don’t support terrorism, gladly accept India and live harmoniously with other religions and see how Indian brothers greet you with warm smiles and open arms , army will go away in days as well. You have to take the first step and then see the good results.
April 7, 2013 - 11:56
You muslim Kashmiris tiny head can’t get this..India is huge country..just because most of western India was converted to Islam by barbarity ..most of those ppl today including Kashmir became muslim dominated..If you were Hindus or Buddhist today u wont allign with central asia..and if u read history of central asia..u will realise that even they were Indians at one time..go and check places and history of origins of Baghdad, Samarkhand,Tashkhand etc.
Ignorance is bliss.. !! u muslims follow it quite sersly…
April 7, 2013 - 23:09
@ ehicallman in the Recent Past Muslims ruled india for over 900 years
IF they Had communal Mentality Like u At PResent there Would have no
Hindus >>>
April 8, 2013 - 12:29
@ kashmiri,
I reverse your logic. See if you can accept it:
Indian army has been operating in J&K for decades. If they were communal, entire J&K would have been Hindu by now. This knocks the foundation from under the whole seperatist Jihadi ideology.
So, when do we hear your views on this?
May 2, 2013 - 21:50
Actually, Muslims never ruled India for 1000 years. Democracy is a modern phenomenon. It took over 500 years for Muslim invaders to establish Muslim rule in most of North India; and it reached its epoch under Akbar of the Mughals; who was an apostate who left Islam and started his own religion Din-e-Ilahi and abandoned many of the discriminatory policies of the previous Muslim rulers; such as the jaziya and special tax on Hindu temples. Mughal rule lasted for 165 years, and even then, they never ruled entire India. Islamic rule in India in general is characterized by wide-spread loot and destruction; and brutal persecution, forced conversions, and massacres of millions of non-Muslims. The liberal policies of Akbar was reversed by his fanatic Muslim successors: Jahangir, Shah Jahan, and Aurangzeb. The claim that Islamic rule was tolerant and non-communal is as false and bogus as Kashmiriyat.
April 8, 2013 - 16:51
Kashmiri logon ko itna bhi ehsaas nahi ho rahaa ki Kashmir ko Afghanistan ki hi tarah banaa ki koshish hai, specifically to target the Dar-Ul-Harb, which India is in front of Pakistan( the Dar-ul-Islam). With Geelani of Hurriyat having said in a number of his speeches that Kashmiris are Pakistanis and they must be with Pakistan,I cant understand how can the Kashmiri people be so ignorant. Their lands are being turned, the culture of Kashmir is being destroyed by the very people they are with. Its for the Muslims to decide now.
April 8, 2013 - 23:29
@ Sanjeev they are on course so far killed Laks of kashmiris and u cannot see day without indian army killing kashmirs
April 9, 2013 - 19:40
@ kashmiri
1. You are exaggerating grossly and needlessly (should I also say, mischievously). As the terrorist violence is going down, so are the unfortunate incidents of collateral casualties. In fact, these days, even one civilian death is taken very seriously by the govt and the forces – and rightly so.
2. The ‘lakhs’ of Kashmiris (and non-Kashmiris) who died in violence over last thirty years or so, include locals, Pakistani (and of other nationalities) terrorists and security persons. I need not reiterate that the forces are not holidaying in J&K. They are doing a job that is a national necessity. In fact, they are doing it at the cost of their primary role – that of defending the borders. I also need not reiterate that the violence in J&K was started by the Jihadi groups and not by the Indian forces.
3. Seperatist and anti-state movements are not new to India. They have happened in other parts in past. Some are still going oon. J&K terrorism is just one manifestation of the national security challenges facing India. India has no option but to fight, no matter how much time it takes.
May 13, 2013 - 02:52
Not only it happens in Periyar Maniammai University in thanjavur where they treat students as slaves if they are from Kerala or other state
May 14, 2013 - 00:59
India is a potpourri of cultures..
and when in India do what the romans do..
Kashmir valley is a small part of the large state kashmir..
Kashmiris have alienated themselves..from the Indian culture and mindset..
In India even a small labourer coming from a small state knows that if he wants to become big in life he has to work..hard..
I doubt if kashmiris have understood that..
Kashmiris have alienated themselves and feel superior to Indians because of maybe their looks…they shudn’t…They look no different than any pakistani or any other north Indian..
we have large populations of Guptas, Baniyas and Marwaris…and other respectable classes ho exist peacefully in India..They dun ask for a special treatment or a different country.. for themselves..
If kashmiris want a new country for themselves..they are disillusioned by power hungry clerics and politicians..a small country the size of state can never survive..
If Kashmiris want to join Pakistan…They should take a visa and go to pakistan…
Because India recgnises kashmir as an integral part of India..primarily because it was orginally a State ruled by a Hindu King..!